August 31, 2001

 

Kit Menkin’s Leasing News   www.leasingnews.org   Friday, August 31, 2001

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Headlines----

 

             Louis Schneider of Preferred Lease Exclusive

        American Express Business Finance—Yes, a tree on a desert island

              makes a sound when it falls----

           Keeping your Computer and software Up to Date/ Jerry Whitley 

        CitiCapital Sells Canadian Fleet Management Operation to GE Capital Fleet

               Mutlitstate Tax Commission  Conference Call

                    Friday---Odds and Ends

 

“Early Bird”

     Last Day/ United Association Equipment Leasing San Antonio Conference

 

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Louis Schneider Exclusive Interview----

 

Preferred Lease in its hay day was doing $12 million a month with their best month $18 million, according to Louis Schneider, one of the founds and present

chief operating officer.  The plastic leasing card idea that the other founder

David Murray discovered was originally being used by T rans Leasing International, Inc., of Northbrook , Illinois , and the card was the LeaseCard.

 

“ We basically were a marketing company, “ Schneider explained. “ We were not

interested in the back end, carrying leases, or even approving leasing.  Our financial statements reflected a marketing company, not a lessor.”

 

Consultants and advertising industry friends were hired to develop a “model”,

a master marketing plan, that was then taken to companies such as Dun and

Bradstreet, where groups were identify who would lease, who would be already

a “good credit,” and then the lists were further re-defined, according to various

“models” that were developed.

 

“ I would originally go to funders and ask what kinds of leases' did they want,”

Schneider says. “ They thought I was crazy.  We wanted to fulfill what type

of customer they wanted on their books.  Instead, they gave us their ‘vendor

score card’ system and rates.

 

“Others would say we want a score of 620, four years in business, low 4 in the bank, no restriction on guarantees or collateral, or whatever their definition

that they wanted for say 11 ½% return.”

 

The operation was to take young people, not in the industry, train them in telephone marketing, in leasing,  responding to the leads generated by

specific mailings, not just bulk mail, but following the lists Fair Isaac or

other scores, very similar to now bank card mail solicitations.

 

“ We did over $120 million with Advanta over a fourteen month period,” Schneider summarizes. “  They had a full time supervisor and two credit

people right here in Lake Tahoe..  All of a sudden, one day, the federal

regulators walk into Atlanta Bank, tell them there are too may sub-prime

mortgages and to close down the operation, including equipment leasing.

 

“Advanta was buying like crazy, selling the leases off, putting them into

securitization, and has a $50 million in warehousing when this happened.

It not only put them into a spin, but they were our sole source at the

time.  We had a bank line, but we had this momentum going, and

I remember this day very well, May 30st, it hit us hard.  The down market

came at the same time. We found ourselves living on the advance rentals until Jim Raeder came along with some investors and saved our company.

 

“We are back to doing what we do best, market leases.  As far as our portfolio

at Advanta, I think much of it was sold off.  People like Rudy Trebels also bought

from us via Advanta.  They chose the credits.  I think the portfolio is performing well, but remember, we are not a “back-end” leasing company, we are a “front room” marketing company and I think we are the best in the business.”

 

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American Express Business Finance Tree Fell/Sound Heard

 

"A high ranking executive with Amex has verified that Amex is investigating possible problems with the portfolios of RW Professional Leasing and the Republic Group.  There is no cover up attempt on the part of Amex, but in fairness to everyone, the issues have to be thoroughly investigated before any public comment can be made".

 

  American Express Spokesman  Statement----Name Withheld

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Ask Jim Raeder?

 

"What did RT at Amex mean when he referred to the RW Professional Leasing

and Republic Group problems in his August 23rd conference call to all the

Amex sales and administrative people?"

 

Leasing News Reader Name Withheld

 

 

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***I get that feel from what your putting out in front of us, hopefully everyone 

      realizes that.

 

Its nice to see rebuttals like today, very funny and interesting....what’s that old saying " if it walks like a duck...."

 

TP

 

( Name Withheld )

 

  ( Jim Raeder Reaction from Readers on Tuesday. editor )

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Keeping your Computer and software Up to Date

 

 

            One of the most frustrating facets of computers is keeping current on the hardware and software needs. In order to keep your business operating efficiently to meet all of your customers needs staying updated in both areas is a must.

 

  a.. Software

    1..  Windows update from Microsoft http://windowsupdate.Microsoft.com/ will keep your windows up to date.

    2..  CNet: http://catch-up.cnet.com/ this is a free service it will go look at all the software on your computer and tell you if there are any updates for any of your software.

    3..  I get asked about Beta updates, I do not recommend this unless you have a problem you are trying to fix.

  a.. Hardware

    1.. Hardware is a different story. I have not found a reliable source that checks for updates on all your hardware. I recommend going to each of the manufacture's web page and checking for updates.  This includes mouse, sound card, modem, mother board, video card, keyboard, USB devices, printers, and any other devices you may have hooked up to the computer.

    2.. A lot of hardware companies supply auto update software like 3com, Logitech, soyo, Microsoft and many others. Look for this on the box when you buy new hardware.

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Mutlitstate Tax Commission  Conference Call

 

Industry members are invited to participate in a conference call with the Multistate Tax Commission (MTC) to discuss a proposed rule for determining priority of sales tax credits when leased equipment moves between taxing jurisdictions. This

MTC proposal has been revised to specifically include automobiles before it is adopted by the Streamlined Sales Tax Project(SSTP) subcommittee writing the uniform definition of leasing.  This conference call with the MTC Sales and Use Tax Subcommittee is scheduled for Tuesday, September 11, 2001 from 2:30 to 4:00 PM Eastern Time (1:30 PM Central, 12:30PM Mountain, 11:30 AM Pacific). 

 

To receive dial-in instructions send your name and company to brown@elamail.com.  If you do not want your company name shared with MTC in advance of the call please indicate in your request for dial-in

information.

 

 I expect leaders of the conference call will be Claire Hasselholt, Washington Dept. of Revenue and Adina Christian, Texas

DOR. The agenda is as follows:

 

I.            Welcome

 

II.         Public Comment Period

 

III.            Explanation and Discussion of Proposed Rule for Determining Sales/Use Tax Priority Regarding Leasing

Transactions

 

IV.       Other Matters Pending Before the Subcommittee

 

V.            Adjournment

 

 The following is taken directly from the official MTC notice sent to state departments of revenue.  It explains the purpose of

these proposed rules and provides text of the proposals.

 

 STATEMENT OF BASIS AND PURPOSE:  Establish standard rules for allowance of sales and use tax credits [insert your

state statute] on leasing transactions where, after lease origination and at least one month of use, the leased property is moved

from one state of the U.S. to another state.  The rule shall be applied transaction by transaction, and no excess credit may be

applied from one transaction to the tax due on a different leasing transaction.  The result should avoid double taxation of the

same transaction, provide a basis comparing states that apply tax at different points of the transaction and allow a tax

collection where a higher tax rate would be applicable in a state property is moved to. These rules are intended to apply to all

leases of tangible personal property, including, but not limited to, automobiles as well as other types of mobile tangible

personal property. 

 

Proposed Rule 1 

 

RULE WHERE LESSEE HAS PAID SALES OR USE TAX UP FRONT ON LEASE VALUE

 

 "Where sales or use tax is paid in full on the total rental due under a transaction that leases mobile tangible personal property

and the taxpayer subsequently moves the leased property to another State, the state with the subsequent taxing jurisdiction

shall allow a credit, not to exceed the amount imposed by the subsequent taxing jurisdiction, against any sales or use tax

liability up to the amount of the sales or use tax previously paid to the State with the first taxing jurisdiction, regardless of

whether the first tax imposed a vendee (retail) sales tax or a vendor sales tax".

 

Proposed Rule 2

 

RULE WHERE LESSOR HAS PAID SALES/USE TAX ON PURCHASE AND PASSED THE COST THROUGH

TO THE LESSOR LUMP SUM OR AS PART OF THE LEASE PAYMENT.

 

 "Where a lessor has paid sales tax on the purchase of tangible personal property intended for subsequent lease, and has billed

the lessee for that tax or has included the tax paid in the lease price; credit, of the amount of tax paid by the lessor but not to

exceed the tax imposed by the subsequent jurisdiction, will be available to the lessor or lessee for the sales or use tax due to a

subsequent jurisdiction on the lease of such property. This provision shall not apply to intrastate lease transactions."

 

Rule 3.  DIFFERENT POINTS OF TAXATION BETWEEN TWO STATES.

 

Where the tax application to leased property of two affected states differ between tax on periodic payments versus full tax at

the origin of the transaction (up front) the above credits shall be negotiated as follows:

 

            a.  Where the second or subsequent state collects at an origin or up front point, credit shall be allowed for the sum

of all the sales or use tax paid on monthly or cap cost reduction payments, regardless of rate, against the sales or use tax which

the subsequent state would impose based on the original transaction values.

 

            b.  Where the subsequent state collects taxes when periodic payments are made and the original (first) state collected

sales or use tax on the full lease value up front, the second, subsequent state shall only be entitled to sales or use tax to the

extent that the rate imposed by the subsequent state exceeds the rate imposed by the origin state.  The portion of the rate in

excess of the first states  rate shall be applied monthly to the lease payments made after the property is moved into the

subsequent state.

 

Please answer the following only if you have voted NO to Proposed Rule 2:

 

Is your objection based on the belief that there is no double taxation involved?

 

Yes  ________          No_____                                                       

 

If no, is your objection based on the difficulty in administering this rule?

 

Yes           No                                                       

 

If no, do you propose alternative language?

 

Yes               No                                                       

 

If yes, what language do you propose?

 

 

Dennis Brown ;DBROWN@ELAMAIL.COM

 

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Friday Odds and Ends

 

 

Tom Jones Syndrome

 

 ( The original remark was from the wit: Tom Jones makes Ricky

    Martin look gay. Several asked to be removed, including

   this person.  editor )

 

 

Hey, you can't please everyone, but "what's new pussycat?"  Actually, the

joke was fine!  I just decided to get the Leasing News from your Web site

instead, and unsubscribe to cut down on my incoming emails.

 

Regards,

 

Troy

troy@ampent.com

 

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Tom Jones is a virile, hairy chested man with a baritone voice.  Ricky

Martin is a boy.

 

Please withhold my name.

 

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Hey, Kit, this Tom Jones/Ricky Martin thing reminds me of the first time I

really started to feel old.

 

I overheard someone say that his favorite Beatle's song is "Hey Dude."

 

Barry

baldguy@frontiernet.net

 

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DO NOT BE MORE SENSITIVE!  I LIKE YOUR JOKES.

 

Bob Bell

bob@independentleasing.com

 

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I asked my wife to ask her hair dresser if Ricky Martin was gay. And she

said he was. Why is the joke so funny?  I don’t get it.

 

Stu

stewartk@legendcapital.com>

 

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Well, I happen to be gay and thought the joke was pretty funny.  Don't let an over-sensitive reader discourage your humor.  I also meant to comment Monday after your 'sermon'...man,   sales managers across the nation were wishing they had something as nice and positive to say.   Well put.

 

 ( name with held )

 

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Thanks for the inspiration Kit.  It is very timely.

 

Ginny Young

GinnyYoung@bravacapital.com

 

 

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Jim Buckles     --Preferred Broker Solutions

 

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